he also covered the obama transition. wasalked about what happening in colorado and what was signed into law there. the governor and other western democrats -- how important are they in terms of leading the charge to change the conversation about the gun control debate? guest: they are very important. western democrats have been some of the biggest defenders on gun rights that have not engaged a conversation on gun control measures. the fact that they are talking about it, and the governor of colorado has signed into law these measures is critical. it is not solely driven by people like joe biden and bloomberg and the northeastern establishment. they are trying to get geographical diversity. that is why joe manchin is a player. thelso explains why democrats in the senate have gone after tom coburn, a republican from oklahoma, who has been most open to a background check bill and he has been negotiating with chuck schumer from new york. it is not clear if he will actually end up supporting what comes to the floor from sena